security, and we're not going to want to cut education and roads and bridges. >> very, very quick final point because we have to leave it there. >> this is exactly what we have been saying on the wall street journal editorial board for the last six months. you can't get the money you need to fund all these programs by just taxing the rich. and we have only had this tax increase on the rich for what, 72 hours, and already people like nancy pelosi are saying we have to tax the middle class, and by the way, that's where the money is. you just said, erin, if you want the money, you have to go after the middle class. >> let me just say -- no, no, the rich among us, the wall street journal editorial page probably thinks the middle class starts around, what, $500,000 a year? >> the president thinks it's $30,000 a year. >> i'm going to hit pause, but we'll have you both back because this topic is not going away. >>> and now our third story "outfront," reliving the horror in aurora. today, police officers recalled the details of the movie theater shooting that left 12 dead. one officer said jame